- GFG - II
- Frederick Orendorf and Catherine Shoemaker are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Johann Frederick Getman and Maria Johanna Bierman.
- 1830 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY - Fred Orndorf, 1 male undr 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 mael 10-15, 1 male 30-40, 1 female under 5, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 30-40.
- 1840 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY - Frederick Orendorff, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 20-30, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 40-50.
- 1850 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY - Frederick Oenduff (sic), ae 56, Farmer with property valued at $4000, born in NY; Catharine, ae 54, born in NY; Daniel, ae 23, born in NY; Barbary, ae 21; Frederick, ae 17, Farmer; Albert, ae 26, Farmer; Margaret Zuller, ae 25, born in NY.
- GFG - VIII
- Frederick Orendorf and Catherine Shoemaker are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Johann Frederick Getman and Maria Johanna Bierman.
- 1860 census, German Flatts (Mohawk PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 749 - Suspected to the the Catherine Orendorf living with Frederick Bellinger.
- 1870 census, Salisbury (Norway PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 16 - living with her son Daniel.
877. Johann Frederick Orendorf
- GFG - II / VIII
- 1860 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, fam # 757 - Living with his brother Daniel and his family in a dwelling shared by their brother Albert and his family.
- GFG - II
- Peter F Orendorf and Anna Maria Hoyer are 1st cousins 1 time removed. Their common ancestors are Frederick Orendorf and Anne Eve Getman.
- 1850 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, fam # 150 - Peter F Orendorf, ae 54, Farmer with property valued at $1500, born in NY; Mary, ae 49, born in NY; Amanda, ae 19, born in NY; Peter, ae 14; Catherine, ae 10; Rufus, ae 2.
- 1860 census, Geman Flatts (Mohawk), Herkimer, NY, Peter F Orendorf, ae 64, Farmer with real estate valued at $2700 and personal property of $800, born in NY, Mary, ae 59, born in NY; Peter, ae 25, Farm Laborer, born in NY; Catharin, ae 20, born in NY; Rufus, ae 12, born in NY.
- GFG - II
- Peter F Orendorf and Anna Maria Hoyer are 1st cousins 1 time removed. Their common ancestors are Frederick Orendorf and Anne Eve Getman.
- 1870 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, fam # 1166 - Living with her son Rufus.
- GFG - II / II
- GFG - II / II
- GFG - II
- Family presumed based on census records. [WG]
- 1830 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY - George Orendorf; 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 30-40, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 30-40.
- 1850 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, fam # 148 - George F Orendorff, ae 54 with property valued at $1800, Farmer, born in NY; Mary, ae 22, born in NY; John, ae 24, born in NY; Cornelia, ae 2, born in NY.
- 1860 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, fam # 789 - Living with his son George.
- 1870 census, German Flatts (Ilion PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 1222 - Living with his son John.
- GFG - II
- Johann Adam Helmer and Anna Eve Shoemaker are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Johann Frederick Getman and Maria Johanna Bierman.
- AKA: Schumacker
- 1840 census, Columbia, Herkimer, NY - Eve Helmer, 1 female 40-49, 1 female 50-59.
- 1850 census, Columbia, Herkimer, NY, fam # 353 - Living with her son-in-law David Miller
- 1860 census, Columbia, Herkimer, NY, fam # 949 - Living with her son John.
- GFG - I
- Johann Adam Helmer and Anna Eve Shoemaker are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Johann Frederick Getman and Maria Johanna Bierman.
- 1830 census, Columbia, Herkimer, NY, p 206. Adam Helmer, 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 2 males 15-20, 1 male 20-30, 1 male 60-70, 2 females 20-30, 1 female 50-60.
- He is not listed in the 1840 Columbia, NY census.
- GFG - II
- AKA: John Thomas Shoemaker (Wohleben)
- birth recorded as "John b. Fonda NY (FR) 27 Mar 1785, sp. Geo Steel & Dorothy (Barker)
- 1810 census, Warren, Herkimer, NY, John Shoemaker, 1 male under 5, 1 male 26-44, 1 female under 5, 1 female 26-44. [listed next to his father]
- 1820 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY, John Shoemaker, 3 males under 10, 1 male 26-44, 1 male over 45, 1 female under 10, 1 female 10-16, 1 female 16-26, 1 female 26-45, 1 female over 45, 2 maled involved in agriculture. [listed next to his father] [he apears to have one of his borthers and family living with him.]
- 1830 census, German Flatts, Herkimer, NY - John Shoemaker, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 1 male 40-50, 1 male 60-70, 1 female under 5, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 40-50, 1 female 60-70. [listed next to his father]
- 1850 census, Warren, Herkimer, NY, fam # 27 - They are living with their son Abram.
- 1860 census, Columbia (Columbia Center PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 1010 - Living with his son Abraham.
- GFG - II
- William [married] Christine, a daughter of Henry Helmer, Sr., of Getmans Corners, and died in early life. (Hatch)
- Living with her nephew William Helmer, during the 1880 Columbia census.
892. Johann Frederick Shoemaker
- GFG - II
- GFG - II
- 1850 census, Warren, Herkimer, NY, fam # 27 - Abram Shoemaker, ae 35, Farmer with property valued at $2800, born in NY; John, ae 71, born in NY; Catherine, ae 70, born in NY; Eve, ae 26, born in NY; Thomas, ae 17, Farmer, born in NY; Elizabeth Petrie, ae 25, born in NY; Mary, ae 20, born in NY; Nicholas Osterhout, ae 48, Laborer, born in NY.
- 1860 census, Columbia (Columbia Center PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 1010 - Abraham Shoemaker, ae 43, Farmer with real estate valued at $1500 and personal property of $300, born in NY; Elizabeth, ae 55; Eve, ae 35; John Shoemaker, ae 78, Farmer, born in NY.
- Where was he during the 1870 census?
- 1880 census, Richfield Springs, Otsego, NY, fam # 213 - Living with his nephew Thomas's wife Julia.
- GFG - II
- 1850 census, Warren, Herkimer, NY, fam # 27 - Living with her brother Abram.
- 1860 census, Columbia (Columbia Center PO), Herkimer, NY, fam # 1010 - Living with her brother Abraham.
- GFG - II
- GFG - II
- GFG - II
- GFG # A 7
- Living with her son Daniel during the 1850 census.
- Newspaper Article (Enterprise and News, Saint Johnsville, NY, Wednesday, August 16, 1933)
SALTSMAN
...
In looking through Col. Jacob Klock's regiment we found Henry [Saltsman], Henry Jr., George and John, no doubt t h e father and three sons, for family tradition tells us that the twins Geo. and Henry, Jr. went to war and never returned. They probably fill some lonely place on a battle field. It seems they started life and closed it together.
John was engaged in and wounded at the battle of Orlskany. His son Peter I. Saltsman served in the war of 1812.
We have been told that there has been a Saltsman or Saltsman descendant in every war America has ever engaged in. And to bring it right up to date we still have a Saltsman in the army, Burdete Saltsman, son of Myron is at present at Sacketts Harbor. We may justly feel proud of the loyalty our family has shown
We hope that some time we will be able to trace these daughters and son Peter, but at present I have found nothing. The one son we do know about is John who married Elizabeth Getman. For those interested let me state that this Elizabeth is a daugher of Capt. Christian Getman and his wife Anna Eve Tlmmerman Markle Getman who was scalped by the Indians.
John and Elizabeth Getman Saltsman had four children:
Peter I., Martha, Daniel and Fanny. Of Marta I have learned nothing, but today we see here many descendants of Peter I, We hope some of Daniel and Fanny. With a bit of good fortune perhaps Martha too is represented.
...
(Getman records indicate that the Elizabeth Getman listed was a daughter of Frederick Getman and Anne Eve Frank. Christian's daughter Ann Elizabeth died as a youth, and was an entirely different generation.)
- GFG # A8
- Hatch gives DOB as 1778
- This Frederick served as Captain, then Major and Paymaster in the war of 1812. He lived in Herkimer when he died in 1846.
- Colonel in the Militia
- 1810 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY - Frederick Getman, 1 male under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-25, 1 male 26-44, 3 females under 10, 11 female 10-15, 1 female 26-44.
- 1830 census, Herkimer, Herkimer, NY - Frederick Getman, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 50-60.
Marriage Notes for Frederick Getman and Maria Strayer
- DAR record
- LDS film 0887994, hs md 29 Dec 1797 from Family Bible.
- GFG # A 50 / C 64
- AKA: Betsey
- Also identified as GFG # C 64. After careful consideration, this data file does not include her in the family of Frederick Getman and Magdalena Frank. [WG]
- 1850 census, Herkimer, Herkimer, NY, fam # 416 - Frederick Helmer, ae 43, Farmer, born in NY; Eliza, ae 42, born in NY.
- 1860 census, Herkimer, Herkimer, NY, fam # 201 - F A Helmer, ae 53, Teamster with personal property valued at $1000, born in NY; Eliza, ae 51, born in NY; Mary Coffee, ae 13, born in Mass; John Wilson, ae 29, Servant, born in Germany.
- 1870 census, Herkimer, Herkimer, NY, fam # 546 - Helmer Frederick A, ae 63, Overseer of Highways with real estate valued at $4500 and personal property of $1000, born in NY; Eliza, ae 62, Keeping House, born in NY; Leper Mary, ae 12, at school; Flood Thomas, ae 16, Laborer, both parents of foreign birth.
- 1880 census - Herkimer, Herkimer, NY, fam # 514 - Helmer Frederick , ae 73, born in NY, parents born in NY, Teamster; Eliza, wife, ae 72, Keeping House, born in NY, parents born in NY.
- GFG # A 48
- AKA: Sally Ann
- GFG # A10
- AKA - Ottilia / Delilah
- Of the daughters of Frederick Getman Sr., Delila married about 1804 Andrew Ackler Finck, born 1784. in 1805 they built the famous Finck Tavern still standing in Manheim just east of the suspension bridge and about two miles east of Little Falls.
It is said of this Tavern that all the best stages stopped there and that a hundred guests could be entertained at one time. Among its most noted patrons were Jerome Bonaparte and Marquis de La Fayette. He it was who originated the scheme to cross the Adirondack wilderness by Railroad which Dr. Webb later carried out. (Hatch)
- He was born while his father was attending a meeting of the State Legislature (Pittard et al)
- Veteran: 1812, Lieutenant of Militia
- 1805, built Finck Tavern, in Manheim
- 1820 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY - Andrew A Fink, 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-25, 1 male 26-44, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 26-44, [living near his father-in-law]
- 1830 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY - Andrew A Finck, 3 males 5-9, 2 males 10-14, 3 males 20-29, 1male 40-49, 1 male 50-59, 1 female under 5, 2 females 15-19, 1 female 40-49.
- 1840 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY, - Andrew A Fink, 2 males 1-14, 1 male 15-19, 2 males 20-29, 1 male 50-59, 1 male 60-69, 1 female 10-14, 1 female 15-19, 1 female 40-49.
- 1850 Manheim, Herkimer, NY, dw 44 fam 43, p 715/358. Andrew Fink, 66 M, Farmer 5000, NY; Rosamond, 50 F, NY; Mary Sheldon, 18 F, OH; Martha, 10 F, LA; Francis, 21 M, Farming, Ger; Robert, Foues, 16 M, VT.
- 1860 Manheim (P.O. Manheim Centre), NY, dw p 281 fam 298, p 41/163. Andrew A Fink, 76 M, Farmer 800 500, NY; Rosamond, 61 F, NY; Mary Sheldon, 30 F, TX.
- 1870 Manheim (P.O.Little Falls), Herkimer, NY, dw 197 fam 200, p 27/311. Andrew Fink, 86 M, Retired Farmer, NY; Rosamond, 76 F W, NY.- ANDREW ACKLER FINCK (1784-1872)
Manheim, Built tavern on the Mohawk River below Little Falls; entertained many noted guests, including Jerome Bonaparte and the Marquis de LaFayette. Envisioned crossing the Adirondacks by railroad and canal before it was actually accomplished. (Utica Observer Dispatch, Sept. 26, 1999)
- GFG - A
- GFG - A
- GFG # A 11
- Veteran: War of 1812 - Daniel Getman - Company: 19 REG'T (GETMAN'S), NEW YORK MILITIA. - Rank - Induction: SERGEANT - Rank - Discharge: SERGEANT -Roll Box: 80 - Roll Exct: 602
- 1830 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY - 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 30-40, 2 females under 5, 2 females 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20.
- 1840 census, Manheim, Herkimer, NY - 1 male 10-15, 2 male 15-20, 1 male 30-40, 1 male 40-50, 1 female under 5, 2 females 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30.
- 1850 census, Pamelia, Jefferson, NY, fam # 238 - Danl Getman, ae 60, Farmer, born in NY; E Getman, ae 37, Farmer with property valued at $3000, NY; Rachael, ae 28, born in England; Cary, ae 3/12, born in NY; Mary Belinger, ae 17, born in NY.
- 1860 census, Lyme, Jefferson, NY, fam # 834 -Living with their son Frederick.
- Living with his son Frederick during the 1880 census.
- Possibly buried Snells Bush, Manheim, Herkimer, NY
- AKA: Delia
- AKA: Timmerman (GFG) Timmerman and Zimmerman are alternative spellings of the same family name.
- Delilah, b 20 Oct 1794, in Lt. Henry Timmerman's Bible (David Kendall Martin, The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley, p 106)
Marriage Notes for Daniel Getman and Lany Zimmerman
- Getman Geneology indicates a marrage date of 14 Nov 1834, this date obviously does not correspond with the cemetery date of death which is 14 Aug 1834
- GFG # A 12
- 1820 census, Palatine, Montgomery, NY, Getman George T, 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-18, 3 males 16-26, 2 males over 45, 1 female 10-16, 1 female 26-45, 1 female over 45, 3 engaged in agriculture.
- AKA: Koch
- Alt DOB: 28 Nov 1775
- Suspected to have been buried in the Getman Homestead Cemetery.
- GFG # A 13
- AKA: Katherine / Catrina
- alt DOB: 1778 (GFG)
- Living with her son Christopher Suits during the 1850 and 1860 census.
- GFG # A 71
- GFG # A 70